tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post793407442196173336..comments2024-01-29T03:04:24.219+11:00Comments on Flinders Family Freer: The Bare Hands GangAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12315551718688781746noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-34213810550509564342011-01-25T15:29:03.130+11:002011-01-25T15:29:03.130+11:00I saw a Doco once where they theorised that humans...I saw a Doco once where they theorised that humans were able to scavenge bones once every thing else in the area had their fill, because we used tools to crack the thigh bones to get to the bone marrow, which nothing else could do.Krisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00878867957055875163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-54666390471132475692011-01-25T14:44:38.800+11:002011-01-25T14:44:38.800+11:00Blloonatic - you are quite right. It's just as...Blloonatic - you are quite right. It's just as famous from the Inuit, and I would guess all sorts of other far north-dwellers. I am fairly sure it is genetic at least in part with some North dwellers though.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12315551718688781746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-8502984966781696602011-01-25T14:29:41.919+11:002011-01-25T14:29:41.919+11:00Not just Western Europeans, Dave, although I guess...Not just Western Europeans, Dave, although I guess I am from that descent. Some day I will make you Poutine!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-5964199323381636982011-01-25T11:21:40.879+11:002011-01-25T11:21:40.879+11:00Indeed. One should add "effectively" to...Indeed. One should add "effectively" to the end of my comment.<br /><br />I should also mention that my "they did it to themselves" argument was much more focused on "moderns" playing the "tradition" card (such as the Japanese and Norwegians wrt whaling) and continuing hunting with modern equipment, than people who maintain a more traditional life-style (or reasonable fascimile thereof) and which rely on a hunter-gatherer existence for survival. [Such as yourself <i><grin></i>]<br /><br />Although it didn't really read that way. Mea culpae.Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-39480136384309670182011-01-25T09:29:19.435+11:002011-01-25T09:29:19.435+11:00Reverence Pavane "Although I am in favour of ...Reverence Pavane "Although I am in favour of it myself, the big problem with forcing people to use traditional methods of harvesting protected or endangered species is that for a large number of aforementioned prey species the traditional methods no longer work as technological improvements have allowed the humans to wipe out enough of their traditional prey that traditional methods can no longer work."<br /><br />The un-politically correct answer then is if you as say a ping-ping tribe member wish to be allowed to catch rare and endangered sawtail ducks because that was a ping-ping tradition, but can't because modern hunting has reduced stocks to the point where traditional methods can no longer work... only permitting the traditional method will allow sawtail ducks to recover. And selling sawtail ducks is certainly right out! while modern hunting tools and transport have certainly hurt stocks, it's worth realising that traditional hunter-gatherer populations were low because it was hard to get enough food, particularly at pinch-pointsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12315551718688781746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-85886139800409085702011-01-25T09:20:16.339+11:002011-01-25T09:20:16.339+11:00Quilly, Omega 3 is so tied to brain function, that...Quilly, Omega 3 is so tied to brain function, that I have to agree with you. I've often wondered what actually happened homonid evolution wise in the Afar triangle - which would have been swamp/mangrove and rich in seafood back then.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12315551718688781746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-31865742287187482952011-01-25T09:15:25.918+11:002011-01-25T09:15:25.918+11:00Biren - that depends 1)on the volume of meat- trad...Biren - that depends 1)on the volume of meat- traditional hunter gatherers would have had very low volumes, with occassional binges brought on by the lucky kill of something big, and having no way to store the food. Their lifestyle was active, but they died young (often from injury, disease, or poor nutrition (evidenced by homonid bones). That's very different to modern meat eating, where agriculture, transportation and freezing mean meat in large quantities evey day. In very cold climates with low winter daylight levels animal fats also are a source of vitamin D (which is possible to substitute, but I believe it and the fat/energy for coping with cold is why Western Europeans - particularly from northern countries are so fond of meat and fat.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12315551718688781746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-7482586386720939752011-01-25T06:57:45.750+11:002011-01-25T06:57:45.750+11:00Meat eaters need to lead a very active lifestyle o...Meat eaters need to lead a very active lifestyle or get their arteries clogged up !birenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11995840418966696101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-13879010163236303022011-01-25T04:33:58.771+11:002011-01-25T04:33:58.771+11:00Although I am in favour of it myself, the big prob...Although I am in favour of it myself, the big problem with forcing people to use traditional methods of harvesting protected or endangered species is that for a large number of aforementioned prey species the traditional methods no longer work as technological improvements have allowed the humans to wipe out enough of their traditional prey that traditional methods can no longer work.<br /><br />In other words they did it to themselves.<br /><br />[Now if they also took the effort to attempt to restock the supply to traditional levels, rather than moving onto different species and locales, then this argument would be greeted with much more respect. But no, nature is generally considered a resource to be plundered until there is no more left there to be plundered. <i><sigh></i>]Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-301791108611372665.post-3671051084393156832011-01-25T00:55:47.278+11:002011-01-25T00:55:47.278+11:00Many of the sites found with the earliest examples...Many of the sites found with the earliest examples of H. Habilis are in caves, near the ocean, with lot's of sea shells around. Evolution quickens as predecessors gain better tools, fire and _sea food_.<br /><br />All that good fat that helps brain function comes from animal fat. Smarter/stronger becomes more pronounced.....Quilly_Mammothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233071648647457818noreply@blogger.com